2. Pump action
Maligned, ignored, or seen as a specialty gun, the pump is faster than you think. It is surprisingly, one of the more popular deer rifles, and is useful in places where using a semi-auto for hunting is illegal. Like the semi auto, it does not require you to remove your attention from the sighting plane.
Where the AR-15 beats the pump is in its larger capacity magazine, though for a rifle, I still think 10 shots is plenty. Additionally, the AR-15 is three inches shorter and a pound lighter. At distance, the pump’s 30-06 will completely outclass the .223 of the AR-15. Closer in, the higher magazine capacity of the AR-15 gives it an advantage. Most important, for the purposes of this article, the pump is not nearly as threatening, does not have the assault rifle stigma, and is less likely to be restricted, banned, or scrutinized.
If you live in an area with a heavy hunting presence, arming yourself with a common hunting rifle in your neck of the woods when SHTF is probably going to be the best thing you can do to walk around armed but unnoticed.
For another gun that won't capture a ton of attention post-collapse, check out the next slide. Plus, this gun is also less expensive than your average semi-auto!
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Look, fellas. Enough. If you came across one another in a SHTF situation, it would suite you both to get along. Odds are, you won’t, but you might come across someone who disagrees with you, so, fighting like children isn’t going to end well. An AR is not the superior go-to rifle for any-and-all survival situation. It’s simply a well rounded option. Good for a lot, not really specializing in one thing. Like a Leatherman multi-tool. I will NEVER go anywhere with out one of my Rem. 870’s or 1300’s, but let’s be real, a 12 with buck or even a slug won’t be very good when range is a factor. Yet, I have a few things I could unpack, and reach out about 200-400 yards FURTHER than the silly little .223. Talk about range and all, don’t come at me with AR superiority because I wear a round around my neck that I plucked from a target at 900 yards away.. That settles that. So, quit. Both of you have very relevant arguments, and neither of you are wrong. Just being dumb.
Taryn Mason Brown I was arguing that it is more concealable and it had a better effective range. He couldn’t get that and I guess he deleted all his comments.
I also have some high $ long guns that I’m fairly good with…… still, I wouldn’t want to hump them around.
It tends to be a the pattern of people who lost the argument. Delete their words and walk away. You had the rational end, anyway. It would suck to lug around everything like that, but if we have no choice… I usually break down my options into tiers. First, be able to spot a threat from a long way off, and possibly “respond accordingly”. Second is active defense in the general vicinity, then last, when it’s close enough to see the sweat beads on their forehead. Ideally, I’d like to have all three tiers covered at any given time. On at side note.. I trust any man with at 30-30. My pops gave me his when I was about 8 to teach me. Knocked me on my$#%&!@* I fell in love. So, good on you, brother. Stay safe.
Hahahahaha ! Myself included, but I was speaking figuratively long term.
The one you have will do, 100 rounds and a med pistol, and a knife. Learn how to use them.
See, you bring up another point. Distance and training are always going to be your friend. If the goal of ‘grey man’ is to blend in, wouldn’t it be better to not be seen at all? If you have good glass on your rifle you can identify a potential threat from a long way off and circumvent it. With a shotgun you’re not going to do that….. and a distance gap could be closed quickly. I just don’t get it. There seems to be a common trend to recommend inferior weapons for the sake of prepping or survival. I get it if that’s all you can afford, but I refuse to leave a damn fine weapon in the safe and use a relic just for the sake of blending in. IT SEEMS CRAZY TO ME!
Thank you
22lr human deadly and quiet. Easily carry a 1000 rds. Center fire draws attention.
Already have them
Slingshot, cheaper and never run out of ammo.
That one on the top looks like a mosin carbine 38. Good luck finding one of those. Looking for a couple years now.
All of the above
Point to consider caliber you are most likely to resupply with in the field
Suppressed .22 cal
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I’ve hunted with both, I’ll take a shotty, kinda hard to eat a squirrel after hitting it with a .223, and a bit difficult to hit a flying bird.
If fighting is your only concern the AR is probably better. But it loses out on everything else