Often information is given over the internet that is at times blatantly incorrect. Unfortunately, because it’s repeated over and over many people think these lies or myths must be true.
This is true about knives.
Specifics and folklore regularly get mixed together and soon there is great confusion. No one is certain if what they want to buy is a quality knife or if it is imperfect.
The knife loving community has to understand that what was once true, maybe fifty to one hundred years ago, is not factual in this modern age. Maybe what great-grandpa thought of as unsound when it came to a blade in his youth has been perfected over the years.
On page two we are going to look into some truths that are actually false when it comes to knives We will dispel a few myths. You might be surprised to learn that a certainty you always thought written in granite is not quite the stone-cold-fact you thought!
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@[100000653465069:2048:Nick Grant]
#3 is actually pretty true. You’re never gonna get a XX30 as hard as say a XX50. Very true article regardless.
Myth needs to be debunked with good information and explanation. As it stands, I am still left to do that research myself because the article didn’t provide any of it
So this is saying that a $10 knife from Walmart is as good as a $200 benchmade? You get what you pay for people.
The material of my blade is very important to me. I dont collect but use my knife as a tool like it should be. Better the material better the tool.
The article simply stated that a higher price doesn’t always equal better quality. A $60.00 Kabar can outperform and outlast plenty of $200.00 – $500.00 knives out there that are only that expensive because they’re a custom blade with a semi-famous knife maker’s name on them. Dark Operations knives are expensive as $#%&!@* but get ripped on by plenty of people online.
I’ll just stick with my obsidian blades like the early humans.
There is a lot left to be desired with this article and you can tell it was written by a non knife person. Sure the wonder steels like S90v et al have a great strength but he main knock on most stainless is the high carbon and vanadium contents while making them more durable make them harder to sharpen and will not take as fine an edge. This has been shown scientifically under scan in electron microscope enhancement bc of the size of the crystalline structure of the various metals. As for a forged blade being stronger than a modern production blade. The idea of forging was to take an inferior metal and forge the impurities out of it making it stronger. Modern metals have already been forged at the factory to a degree- they are hot rolled which pushed out impurities to the surface and thinned reduced repeatedly. The difference is in the grain structure of the material is not aligned as it is in true hammer forging. Sure a tool steel like D2 factory made will be stronger than a forged 1095 high carbon non stainless (both are technically non stainless although the D2 is difficult to rust) of the same thickness in certain dimension BUT it will not have the lateral flexibility and ability to return to true after bending without snapping. As I said. Much information left out of this to truly debunk anything
Horrible article. Go back to the drawing board
Hardness is all about the type of steel haha
He put it in the internet it must be true!
I’ve been using a $20 knife for 2 yrs on packing material and it’s still sharp. More expensive blades can need more attention..like a spouse.
@[100000462706293:2048:Chester Riley]…..
A knife outside of 5ft (may be less) is a poor backup for anything.
Pretty much any knife from wallyworld will do what most people will require it to do.
I’ve got a Korean made CRKT stainless, a Carson design. Not an expensive knife. Damn thing cuts chicken wire, holds an edge. Hell, I even use it to open my beer. Someone’s been watching too much lord of the rings…
There are links to other articles in each list item with more information.
Yes much to be desired. Personally I just prefer forged blades, but I do also like spydercos but that is just me. I appreciate the art of forging more than machines doing everything. Although tech does make production easier
I will take my spyderco’s any day of the week!!!!!!
Somewhere I saw this article with more information after each myth. It was the same one but complete.
@[518119438:2048:Adrian Noble]
@[100009447853469:2048:David Barber]
What did you say about forged blades?
@[699970126:2048:Chaz Fackler]
My main knife is the Graham “ringed razel” made by John himself. After owning gerbers, bucks, some case xx’s, and one unfortunate frost, I can unequivocally say materials and workmanship matters! You’ll never convince me a machine made knife is as good.
This does a terrible job of debunking anything. Of course hardness is associated with the type of steel. What else could possibly impact hardness
If it don’t say Buck who’s gives a $#%&!@*? 😉
Yeah, I don’t agree with this article
Type of steel and heat treat is what matters. The best steel for a blade is only as good as the HT.
It does not matter if it is forged, stock removal or surface ground, performance is determined by the HT.
No, a forged blade is not stronger than any other method of blade shaping.
@[1406951351:2048:Johnny Bays]
Dear Die Hard Survivor,
If you are going to sponsor an ad to promote your page why would you repost this garbage? Anyone who is drawn to the initial post they see in their newsfeed is clearly they type of person that knows about knives. And now we all think that your company is catering to city-boy weekend warrior laptop outdoorsman. Or at least I do. Please do better next time. I’m sure there are better ways to spend your company’s hard earned cash.
P.s. you should probably try and hire that other Brian guy that commented. He’s telling us facts that are interesting. He clearly has his $#%&!@* in a pile.
Glad i wasnt the only one to find this a waste of time reading ,backed no facts up , i cooked for over 30 yrs,sorry buddy i know a good knife from a crappy one ,its about how they take an edge , how long it lasts and stays aligned, 20 dollar knives dont do that ,150 dollar knifes do
Do it this guys ever had a forged blade that was made by a practiced smith because they are about a thousand times better than a pressed steel knife…
I agree I am not an expert however I know what matters in forging a blade especially a battle ready blade (which I collect) is hardness vs elasticity these are the very basic principles in blade smithing
I would not argue your points, as I’m certainly no expert. But I can say I have several good knives and a couple cheap ones. I keep my sog blades on me at all times. I use these on a day to day basis because they’re good enough. But they don’t hold an edge for crap. But for the cost, it is excellent for the purpose I need. And, God forbid, I need to use it for self defense, it’s good there too. Not the best, but not a walmart knife either.
I also have some really really good blades that were gifted to me, so I don’t know much about them. None have ever been used, and are reserved for hunting and trapping, or for when the $#%&!@* hits the fan.
Statistically speaking, a knife is more deadly than a gun at ranges up to 20 feet. If I can find the source, I’ll post.
I read that article. Someone with a knife can close a 20ft gap faster than someone can get their firearm pulled out.
Ok. That’s why we don’t engage inside 21 feet.
I just make my own. Problem solved…
Yes and no about forging a knife, depending on the skill of the knife maker a forged knife might be significantly weaker than a stock removal knife or slightly better depending on the type of steel and how it is treated in the heating, crystal size can be made smaller with proper heating and cooling as well as heat treating, of course you could do that with a knife you just grind but most don’t. Smaller grain size makes a sharper edge. Also there are types of steel that can’t be made without forging such as tamahagane but in general putting steel under the hammer tends to weaken it in some way
Dan inosanto made a video of this a while back you can find out on YouTube
He’s not talking about some kind of pressed steel pakistano knock off. . Stock removal is a perfectly valid way to make a knife, it’s all in the heat treat anyway.
“Hey, that stuff you heard is a myth, this stuff is true though!!”
I dont buy this its vague and there are plenty of variables
Well this is the most uneducated article I’ve ever read! There is no fact base whatsoever. The biggest key to any knife regardless of steel is the heat treatment of the steel. Two knives made from the same steel and manufactured by different companies can have different edge holding abilityn (my own tests). Not all steel responds to forging, steel such as 5160, (leaf springs) 52100, (ball bearings) respond exceptionally well to forging, if done properly! I challenge anybody to take a properly forged and differentially heat treated 52100 steel against any properly heat treated stainless steel such as CPM s90v to 2 test! Test 1: cutting 1″ hemp rope, and after the stainless holds up well it still will fail, and then test 2: clamp in a vise and bend it 90°, the stainless will snap as the other will return almost straight, no cracking, the just bend it back the other way to make it mostly straight and keep using for the rest of your life! Oh and I’ve done those tests too! Making and testing knives 20 years
Well this is the most uneducated article I’ve ever read! There is no fact base whatsoever. The biggest key to any knife regardless of steel is the heat treatment of the steel. Two knives made from the same steel and manufactured by different companies can have different edge holding abilityn (my own tests). Not all steel responds to forging, steel such as 5160, (leaf springs) 52100, (ball bearings) respond exceptionally well to forging, if done properly! I challenge anybody to take a properly forged and differentially heat treated 52100 steel against any properly heat treated stainless steel such as CPM s90v to 2 test! Test 1: cutting 1″ hemp rope, and after the stainless holds up well it still will fail, and then test 2: clamp in a vise and bend it 90°, the stainless will snap as the other will return almost straight, no cracking, the just bend it back the other way to make it mostly straight and keep using for the rest of your life! Oh and I’ve done those tests too! Making and testing knives 20 years
@[636070589:2048:Seth Joseph Hill]
Knives are made to be used. Why have them if you won’t use them
“Die hard survivor”?
Umm, I think I’ll p$#%&!@* on liking this page and just keep watching videos by Ray Mears, Mors Kohanski, Dave Canterbury, etc.