Have you ever read something compelling over the internet and then assumed it was correct? If you have, you're not alone. I too have done the same. Unfortunately, assuming something is true can cause problems, however. When it's repeated over and over people begin to assume something is true… when it's not.
This same thing is affecting your belief about knives.
Fact and fiction typically get mixed which leads to a lot of confusion. After that, it's hard for a prepper to decide what to buy let alone actually know if the knife is quality or flawed.
Both preppers and people who love knives need to understand that what once was considered true a hundred years ago is no longer applicable to our modern day and age. For example, if your great uncle says a particular type of knife just won't cut it (no pun intended, lol), in all actuality that knife could be one of the most popular knives made in the market today.
Keep reading because we're going to unmask some truths about knives that today are false. Get ready to dispel some myths and who knows, you may be surprised that those facts you believed were written in stone are no longer factual at all!
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Very informative !
Just wasted a few minutes of my life.
That was fucking dumb. This is all common sense$#%&!@*for people who are actually into knives.
I love how an article that talks about misinformation is full of BS ( misinformation) hell their #1 is wrong from the start
Misinformative
Was that sarcasm
1 and 2 are incorrect. #1 the type of steel used directly effects it’s ability to harden and temper. You can’t use mild steel to make a knife because it will not harden as there isn’t enough carbon in its make up to allow it to. #2 is simply production vs handmade or custom knives. Easily compared to buying a out of the box gun from a shop, opposed to buying the same gun that has been hand fitted or custom worked.
Lmao. You ever tried Bucks 420HC USA made knives? Don’t sound like it. Easily outclasses “premium” and stooper steels from the popular brands costing several times more.
420hc is a knife blade steel a stainless steel at that. It is a premium knife steel. The cost difference has to do with production cost being lower for larger mass production companies.
Like the article, hate that I have to click my way through sponsored content and go page to page to read it….
Brian Krull, Buck uses decent steel, usually has a good heat treat, and usually makes a good knife.
The only thing their steel has over other steels is it is stainless. It can not hold an edge like 1095 or O1 or A2.
As for “stooper steels,” nothing Buck makes compares to 3V when it comes to performance.
I bought a knife at an auction. It has a supremely cheap imitation stag handle and an absolutely superb full tang high carbon blade. Absolutely the best investment a young self made just because I liked the slope of the blade
Travis Stonebraker
You can harden any mild steel by heating it then clenching in oil.
When your article takes five pages to load then read I no longer find it interseting . FYI . You lost a reader
It’s not true hardened and will not hold an edge or stand up to any real use.
Shane Cornutt I have a few Bucks, not because they are trendy or the kool kids are using them and shilling them all over the Internet. I own and most importantly, use them because they do perform. My Reaper in 420HC made in the USA easily holds an edge as long as Esee 1095. GASPS! BLASPHEMY! You say. Well ok.
Bottom line. Bucks Bos heat treated 420HC will hold an edge as good as any brands 1095 hyped up to mythical levels on the Internet. First step is putting the tablet down and getting out and comparing the two side by side.
Buck understands and implements the science of heat treating about as well as possible.
Ron Benson, it’s quenching, and you may need to go back to school.
I agree Lance Heilman the steel makes the knife not the how it’s hardened! Mild steel or (iron) well never make a good knife no matter how u harden it.
I’m a bladesmith and Lance is spot on.
I’ve been making knives for a couple years now, just recently gone public. I have people ask me why my knives cost what they do, it’s simple time, I specialise in one off knives desgined to fit the customers needs or wants. The material cost for my knives is usually under $100 most of the time closer to &50. When you add the hours of labor this is where the cost comes in to play. 90% of the time I use a2 tool steel or 1095 because it’s easily manipulated in its annealed state and once quenched and tempered it holds a great edge and puts up to some real abuse. It also has a great characteristic of being easily resharpened. If you want a good knife by all means any store bought production knife will do. If you want a family heirloom quality tool handmade with a soul then a custom made knife is going to be your choice.
Almost for got a shameless plug for my knives. Go check out Overkill Knives Facebook page!! Lol
Brian Krull, you are obviously a Buck fan. That’s fine. They make some good knives. I own a couple.
I also own a lot of other knives. Some are production, some are custom, in all kinds of steel. Your buck may hold an edge as long as your ESEE. If so great. However, to make the statement that your Buck will hold an edge just as good as other steels is not true.
Put your Buck against knives made of 52100 or 3V. You’ll soon find out your claims aren’t true.
Where can i get the knife in the picture
Ron Benson at best it may surface harden but will not harden the steel so it will never hold an edge or have any lateral strength/springiness if you bend it it will stay bent.
Shane Cornutt
No, I am a fan of knives that perform. I have put my lowly reaper up against that sooper 3V. I will tell you this. When a buddy goes out on a multi night venture and they have that Internet sooper star steel 3V they learn a few lesson quick. It rusts, if you actually use it, and a few nights out requires some use, it rusts. It also gets dull. Good luck sharpening it in the field after it dulls. Best you’ll do is finger nail cleaning sharp.
Pretty sure you’ve never used one is such scenarios and that’s fine. It’s a kool steel for playing around or a hobbyist but is worth about its weight in scrap metal after a few days in the field.
Well that article was a waste of my time. I was hoping to learn something but I probably know more than the author already.
Brian Krull, I believe your friend doesn’t know how to use or take care of a knife. I have used 52100 and 3V on extended outings which included working wood, food prep, and cleaning animals. Not once has either rusted. I can’t force a patina on 3V.
I have used my knives in 3V hard (including working hardwood and cleaning animals and fish) and they still have a sharp edge at the end of the day. A few passes on a strop kept them shaving sharp.
Sharpening in the field is not a problem if you know what you’re doing.
I have been using, sharpening, and maintaining edged tools for forty years. I’ve gutted, skinned, and butchered no telling how many animals including deer and wild hogs. I have spent weeks in the bush in all climates.
But, I guess that you are more of an expert than anyone, and you use words like “stooper.”
Say whatever you like, I’m done. I’m not wasting any more time on armchair experts that make claims anyone with a modicum of knowledge knows are wrong, and probably made up.
Good day.
Brian Krull, well, you’re obviously an expert and you know more than anyone else does. If you enjoy your Bucks, good for you. They’ll probably serve you well.
Good day.
Shane Cornutt
Lmao. No, I’m smart enough to drive a 44mpg car to work instead of a 12mpg super duty that can tow 12,000 pounds and has 700 ft/lbs of torque.
I’m smart enough to know bucks 420HC for bushcraft, hunting, hiking, camping, game processing is way more steel than even an Internet educated expert like yourself will ever need.
Now if all your going to do is bash cinder blocks for YouTube then 3V might be for you. Then again a lowly Glock field knife for less than $30.00 will make a pile of cinder blocks into chunks of what they were just as effectively.
Some people are just smarter than others (not experts). You need 3V because someone told you that you need it. I use (when rusting will be an issue) bucks 420HC because I know it’s all that’s needed and is actually more steel than required for actual knife use.
Knowledge, not (Internet) expertise. That’s our actual difference
I bet there’s a crucible data sheet out there that will make you feel better, better go read one.
i only saw four
Brian Krull, have you ever used a knife in either 52100 or 3V? And by “used,” I mean for more than a week and for more than feather sticks?
Bill Hersha
Shane Cornutt
Not good at reading are you. Already told you after a few days of using, not simply just carrying and making them feather sticks you seem to be fond of that they are not easy to sharpen in the field. When that happens, and it does, they are worth their weight in scrap. Rusting too.
The reaper, yup, might, big might need a touch up in the middle of the day and some time spent on it around the fire at night. That time around the fire will bring it to shaving sharp though, while the 3v remains dull and is rusting. The touch ups literally take 30 seconds and can be done in place right while you’re working.
Once your noobness wears off you’ll see. When the day comes you have to actually use that 3v and its rusting and dull and you can’t sharpen it and have days left you’ll understand.
Best thing for you to do is not listen to words of experience. Your kinds of knowledge (learned from reading online and data sheets) can only be reprogrammed after you’ve been there. If you’re as$#%&!@*as you come off, shouldn’t be too long till then.
Which knife was it that you used, found it too hard to sharpen, and rusted?
It doesn’t matter, you’ll just Google something and lie about it, just like you have this entire conversation.
It tells you something about a man that must attack and insult others when trying to make his point.
You, sir, are a liar. You also suffer from “what I have is the best” syndrome.
You are a small man with a small mind.
Nathan Ferrell, Josh J Potts
Lance Heilman nailed it and I’m pretty sure Shane Cornutt did too. That other guy is just a comedian I think.
Shane Cornutt
Lmao. You’re all like you attack me. You sound like a presidential candidate. Make something up so you feel justified doing it yourself. (This is you) Wah Wah wah, you attacked me so now I can attack you, you’re a big fat liar. Do you 3rd grade that often in your life?
So you’re saying 3V doesn’t dull, and won’t rust? Remember, you’re the one who disagrees with what I am saying. You act like you know otherwise. If you did you’d be able to convey it without resorting to the tactic you did. I said I seen it rust. I’m saying I’ve seen it dull. Oh yeah, it held a great edge for days but when time came to put it to some sharpening in the field it was relinquished to rusting scrap dead weight.
What’s so super about a dull rusting knife you can’t sharpen in the field days away from getting home? In order to see the trees for the forest they make, you need to get out in the forest.
Click bait bullshit
This whole article is a load of B.S.
Brian Krull you sir are an idiot.
Also, that article was a waste of time.
I don’t care for Stainless Steel knives, in my experience they are very hard to sharpen, and don’t hold an edge very well. I much prefer a knife made from high carbon Steel, I can tolerate the dark staining they eventually get, because they are much easier to sharpen, and hold an edge longer & better.
Looks like another has a cardboard shortage for their YouTube channel.
Me too.
I’m pretty fond of my Benchmade knives of D2 steel.
Derek Potter
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