You may look at this title and think that this topic is going to be about how to discreetly carry switchblades, a pocket pistol, and brass knuckles.
While these weapons are excellent for defense (though their legality varies in each state), the topic we discuss focuses on a different kind of “low profile” weapon altogether.
In a world of mass hysteria over the potential threats of the “assault rifle,” which the media and people who don't understand firearms have now named public enemy number one, a low profile weapon today is a firearm that isn't noticeable by most people.
So to be underneath the radar and be a “gray man” it's important to have a weapon that won't draw a lot of attention.
To find out what you can do to keep yourself on the down-low and armed simultaneously, check out some relevant information after the break.
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It would be, but it would destroy the value of the rifle. If I come across another one then maybe but I’d prefer to keep it as original as possible
Flexability is what I like if you center around one weapon system you are going to have some problems. Is there a perfect do all weapon some say yes history says nope. Each weapon has a plus and minus.
You need to learn how to use a Bow to survive The gun guys will starve after the ammunition runs out.
Well said. A lot of folks get all the “cool” gear and guns(and they’ll spend the money) but never take the time to get good quality training. One example is CCW holders. They get the permit but don’t go beyond that with training and learning.
Last I checked, Marines are now using ACOGs at the range.
.38 sp , 9, 45 , 223 ,30-6,
chambered in a pistol cartridge such as .357 it will also fire .38 and .357 is capable of stopping most animals either 2 or 4 legged you might find in north america.
Eric Reiman I’m going off of what my friend who got out of the marine corp this year told me. And yes he did use a different sight on his combat deployment to Afghanistan whether it was an acog or a red dot I do not know.
Joseph Gregory Gassner Thats why i specifically mention a lever action chambered in 357. It doesn’t look as “aggressive” as many other weapons. If you have a revolver chambered in 357 you have some formidable firepower that will be unobtrusive and relatively easy to purchase, reload or scrounge new ammo.
I hope this article was written as a joke cause most of it is bullshit I’ll keep my ar’s and ak’s thankyou
10/22 and a .22 revolver.
Diversify
Pistol caliber carbine. Side arm and midrange weapon using the same ammo. .22lr revolver and a good old 10/22 work well too. Shot placement and picking your battles.
Scott Drury that was a tough day for both of us. Still can’t believe I was moving all my guns out to the new lake house when I ran right into you overturning both our boats. You sure we’re good natured about it especially since I found out you were also moving all your guns. I’m jut glad we both were uninjured.
A Marlin camp gun? That’s an obscure gun to recommend.
Bolt action rifles are nice, but you’re still better with a concealable AK or AR pistol in most situations.
The Garand is far more effective than the Enfield, and the effective rate of fire is still far better, as pushing in another clip is fast and easy.
Semi auto really does wonders over any bolt gun, regardless of how easy to use they are.
Pistols are dangerously underpowered for self defense. Remember that.
Yeah. Army does 300.
Many hunting rounds are good only to about 200 yards for accuracy.
.30-30, 7.62×39, and any pistol lever action is going to be a 200-250 yard gun.
5.56 or .223 is far easier to find than .30-30.
7.62×39 is easy to stockpile, because it’s cheap.
Dennis Cary – All rifles are for assault. All rifles get you on the same lists. Confiscation is about all guns, not only a few of them – and no, bans won’t work.
The Mini 14 is garbage compared to most AR-15s, as well as more expensive, harder to change parts, and harder to find parts.
You’ve clearly never been in a situation with multiple targets before.
20 shots 5 kills is a far better philosophy than 1 shot 1 kill. That’s 4 less people trying to kill you.
Most mini-14s are far less reliable and far less accurate than AR-15s. They’re also more expensive, harder to change parts, harder to find parts…
If you’re desperate to use your rifle as a club instead of as a rifle, you’ve never used your rifle in self defense before, and you can still get a fixed stock for an AR.
Phil Olding I don’t know where you’re getting your facts, but a good mini is as good as a good AR. I remember Nutnfancy used to run them all the time. And even if you put a fixed stock on an AR, it still attracts more attention.
Phil Olding I hate this “only accurate to 200” stuff. You’re talking trajectory, not accuracy. If you learn your dope for different ranges, that ammo is still accurate.
Yeah but a garand costs over a grand. An enfield is half the cost. And of course a semi will beat any action you have to manipulate by hand unless under different circumstances where there is someone who is ungodly fast.
Phil Olding Andrew has a point because I’ve seen 7.62 aks able to hit targets at 600 yards. Granted those behind them were former Eastern European and one spetnaz but if you know you weapon you can achieve a few level with it than with another. Ballistically speaking you are right and those rounds are in the dirt between 300-400 yards but you do have to take exceptions to the rule for those who are better shooters, more trained, etc.
I don’t know anyone with 10,000-20,000 fudd rounds in their basement. Finding 5.56 is not going to be a problem. Ever.
My biggest down side with the garand is that u must shoot m2 ball or risk jamming breaking or blowing up a fine weapon
I’m not worried being the “gray man”. I am used to the AR-15. I will stick with my reliable “assault weapon.” The Army taught me how to use it well. And i have my .22 rifle for hunting, and handgun for personal defense.
here is another one, the small mom and pop gun store i go to just got in 200 round sealed packages of 223 55gr bt. its sealed and perfect for storage without having to worry about exposure to humidity and the like, you cant get that things like that for the traditional hunting cartridges.
It hasn’t even kicked off and this is how I roll pretty regularly…
.223 or 7.62×39 or 7.62×51 is probably the most common rifle Ammo out there 9mm 40 and 45 not to mention 22lr in pistol/rimfire. Far more common than 30-06 or 270 etc
Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
Yeah haven’t met a single person who bashes a .22 willing to take a shot from one. Yeah there are better options for defence but I have a 10/22 and a .22 pistol I can bug out with and easily carry 2k rounds. But I will be taking some other stuff too.
#Zombietools has some badass swords, machetes, and and knife that are almost completly indestructible. The reaver cleaver is a must have.
Adam Cook do you know any competitive shooters? 10-20k isn’t a lot for those folks.
I kinda scratch my head at the whole “in a survival situation” when an ar15 or ak varriant would draw “too much attention” but a lever gun or other long gun would be less alerting. Of course it also with that logic it might work in ones favor as a deturrant with “scarry” longarms
Camp carbine over and ar….yeah ok. And have fun with those 30 round 1911 stick mags to make it “equal to the ar 15”
And having all that you can not carry when you abandon ship will only help further arm those who seek to kill you.
Ar = armalite not “assault rifle” also no sub guns? No pistols? Anything 9mm or 45 for ammo availability. Sbr anything, ak, ar15, mp5, Evo. Suppressed 22 for Hollywood quiet defence and not to draw attention while hunting for food. Also a midified coach gun would work well.
He also said, ” and in the end all the Mall Ninjas with all their cool gear will be lying dead at the feet of a man with an old K98.”
A pistol is what one uses to fight ones way back to the rifle one should have never put down.
I think the article was trying to point out that a non tacticool rifle may better serve to keep you inconspicuous. However, in my area an M60 would be required to make you stick out.
Your probably right, I was just saying stick to the reliable guns with parts and ammo everywhere. I have too many to choose from and I’m not even the neighbor with the most guns.
did he also say “never replace the stock of your Mauser with a polymer piece because the weight is needed to keep that 8mm from turning your shoulder to hamburger”? because if he did, he didn’t tell me until after I learned the lesson the hard way. Stupidity should be painful, a wise man once said, and it was. Never bubba a WWII battle rifle.
Lol I also have several pellet/BB guns. Ammo is dirt cheap, I can carry a hundred shots in my pocket, doesn’t make a lot of noise, and takes birds and squirrels without scattering everything in a mile.
Of course I have other firearms for larger game and defense but are you really going to waste a 7.62 round on a ground squirrel?
Actually- you assume wrong.
When in a situation of limited munitions and no backup: cool level head, well placed rounds and keeping calm will be the best outcome. If you didn’t survive it? Oh well.
Chris Bloodworth – You can easily store ammo in sealed ammo cans with dehumidifier and oxygen absorber packets. That will make hunting ammo keep for 20 years easily.
I think the author vastly underestimates the prevalence of AR pattern rifles. In a lawless environment, ypu might very well stick out more if you DON’T have an AR, especially near urban areas.